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Becmat

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Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:01 am

Hello

Wondering if a current EN could tell me what sort of jobs they would do on a day to day basis?

Hopefully in a hospital and aged care?

Once you've done Diploma in Nursing, how hard is it to find work without being expereinced, only having the qualification?

Also, if you do a Diploma are you automatically classified as endorsed? Is that all part of the course or would there be further courses to do this?

Thanks

Upcoming RN

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Jan 31, 2011, 12:39 pm

Let me begin by saying that I am not an enrolled nurse, and that I have no experience in the nursing industry, however I am very interested in pursuing a career as a perioperative nurse (surgical nurse) and therefore have a lot of knowledge about nursing theory, nursing care plans, taking obs, first aid and resus etc.

The Diploma of Nursing (Enrolled Nurse) course includes a medication administration and monitoring module if it is studied through TAFE NSW. Therefore all new enrolled nurses have endorsement and can administer medications orally, enteral/enteric administration (suppository/duodenal feeding tube) and parenteral, e.g. direct injection into a vein. So all new enrolled nurses in NSW should be EEN's.

An enrolled nurse in a hospital either works under the direct supervision of a registered nurse, or if they are more experienced they will work as an associate, in partnership with an RN. Daily duties on a typical medical/surgical ward would include:

- Checking on patients to validate their wellbeing

- Taking observations, otherwise know as checking vital signs such as pulse, respirations, temperature, blood pressure and oxygen saturation. As a trained nurse you will be held accountable for determining whether any abnormal vital signs are just red herrings or whether they should be investigated and referred to a nurse practitioner on the ward or to the patient's nominated medical practitioner (if you work in a public hospital, the patient will not have chosen their doctor as a general rule).

- Administration and monitoring of all medications at the times prescribed by the patients' medical practitioners, including oral, enteral, and parenteral (injection). You can do an on-the-job course to learn how to cannulate and set up an IV, particularly if you work in a surgical ward. If the patient has an allergic or otherwise abnormal reaction to their prescribed medication, as a nurse you are responsible for reporting this to their doctor or nurse practitioner.

- ADL's (Activities of Daily Living) - enrolled nurses in particular are responsible for making patients' beds (without creases! as creases can cause bedsores), showering or sponge bathing patients, particularly the elderly, wiping bottoms, changing babies' nappies and changing adult diapers and colostomy bags (this is a bag used to collect faeces from a perforated bowel; some patients who have had a cystoscopy and no longer have a bladder also have a bag to collect their urine externally). You may need to go the extra mile to make pedantic patients comfortable by shaving their beards, cutting their fingernails and toenails and massaging arthritic joints or tender areas of pain. A lot of potential nurses are turned off by the ADL's, which can involve cleaning up blood, faeces, urine and, although rare potentially even semen or vaginal discharge (menstruation or otherwise). You may be required to insert a catheter, apply wound dressings to sensitive areas, place incontinence pads on someone's bot and change them as required or even monitor surgical drains. Wound dressings and management of wounds is a key role in the nurse's domain and most nurses are more skilled in this area than their doctor counterparts.

- Taking obs, administering and monitoring medications and assisting with activities of daily living make up the bulk of a nurse's clinical work. There other less hands on jobs to do, particularly for registered nurses there can be a lot of paperwork and documents to sign. Enrolled nurses need to write their obs on the patient's chart and read the chart, noting any concerning abnormalities that could indicate a change in the patients condition, for better or for worse. Documents such as discharge forms all need the signature of an enrolled or registered nurse.

Becmat

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Jan 31, 2011, 01:25 pm

Thanks upcoming RN.

That was very informative. Although there is a lot of info on the basics of an ENs role, i couldnt really find anything detailed and i dont know anyone that works as an EN.

Eventually, i would like to study to become a midwife but would like to start off as an EN and get some experience etc. Do you know if ENs can work in any sort of maternity area? I would imagine that if they do, it would be hard to find a job in this area.

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Jan 31, 2011, 01:47 pm

Yes, an EEN (endorsed enrolled nurse) is able to practise in the speciality of maternity and pre- and post-natal care of woman and baby. It may not be as difficult as you think to find employment in this area as an EN, but I do recommend that you do your Advanced Diploma of Nursing and select electives from here:

Subgroup 7 PAEDIATRIC NURSING ELECTIVES
You may choose electives from this group

Modules/Units

Name

Hrs

National Module(s)

HLTEN520A

Contribute to the care of mothers and babies

20

 

HLTEN614A

Practise in the paediatric nursing environment

30

 

You can do a Bachelor of Midwifery through UTS, ACU or USyd (pending) to become a Registered Midwife. There is only one category of midwife, that is to say, there is no such thing as an enrolled midwife.

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Jan 31, 2011, 03:12 pm

So i will be doing the Diploma, i can only find a couple of places that do advanced diploma (Diploma as a pre-requisite). They dont appear to have those two subjects in the elective section. Might have to look into it a bit more when ive finished the diploma. If i could work as an EN in a maternity ward somewhere, that would be a good start.

Thank for all your help.

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Feb 24, 2011, 03:23 am

hey all diploma in enrolled nursing accross australia are all now nationally uniformed so everyone doing completes the same 21 compulosy units and 5 electives and you have to suss out the different tafe to see who offers what electives, you can also pick up the extra electives by correspondence if you want to pursue,

Here in wa ens do exactly the same as rns with the exception we dont carry the drug keys for the dd cupboards and we dont do schedule 8 drugs, and they get more pay than us they say that in future the ens will be essentially running the place but needing only one or 2 rns to do the above!

this is true in the local hospital i work at the ens and advanced skill en do everything except they get the rn to do dd, but the asen do ivs and other jobs that only rns used to do

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Feb 26, 2011, 09:11 am

Let me just reiterate a simple fact. A graduate enrolled nurse and a graduate registered nurse do not have identical skill levels. The Diploma of Nursing is a 1.5 year course, while the Bachelor of Nursing goes for 3 years. I have looked into the Diploma of Nursing on Tafe's website, and venipuncture is not a compulsory unit for a trainee en to complete. If you do nursing through uni, it will take longer, and this is because there are more skills to learn, advanced theory to cover, more subject matter.

It's all well and good to compare an EN with 10 years experience to a graduate RN, but it's like comparing apples and oranges. If you compared an en and rn straight after graduation, you would find that the rn doesn't have to do extra courses after finishing their degree, unless they want to specialise. General en's are still not trained in blood collection (at least not by Tafe NSW, last time I checked) unless they do extra electives or an adv diploma.

Enrolled nurses won't be running the place... especially not with the gradual introduction of nurse practitioners (nurse specialists who can prescribe drugs within their speciality under the PBS, and order diagnostic tests)... there will always be work for an type of nurse though, and he or she will get the work that she is qualified for and has an interest in, as a general rule.

I don't hear anyone outside of the nursing profession making such a useless distinction between an en and an rn. Patients just called them 'nurses' not 'cardiac nurse practitioner' or 'clinical nurse specialist' or 'endorsed enrolled nurse'. It doesn't really matter is what I'm getting at here... but I can't see en s running the place when they only do 1.5 years study (the HSC takes longer than that!)... again, apples and oranges... compare the pair after graduation and see who has the most opportunities or skills.

RN is a longer course so more study = more opportunities :-)

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Feb 26, 2011, 12:45 pm

I'm an endorsed enrolled nurse working in aged care. Your endorsement will be included in the diploma (well it is here in Vic anyway). When I studied I did the cert IV which did not include the medication course. Then I did a further six months training in medications.

I do virtually all the same things the RN does in my workplace. An EN or EEN has to be under the direct or indirect supervision of an RN (usually there is an RN on where I work, if not I have to be able to contact one).

A general day for me looks like this:

Medication round (including DD's, and I carry one set of keys for the DD cupboard)
Obs
General assessments eg skin integrity, falls risk
Communicating with Dr's and allied health ie speech path, dietician, physio
Dealing with residents famillies
Another medication round
Assisting residents with their meals.
Liasing with the RN on duty
Wound dressings
Supervising personal carers/ EN's
Paperwork eg progress notes

In my workplace the EN's (non endorsed) and personal care workers do the more hands on things such as showering, toileting etc.

It is a good job, I've never had any trouble getting work.

It is however a big responsibility and I only get paid 80c more than a non endorsed EN. Hence why I'm sort of looking for another job : )

Good luck : )

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Jul 11, 2014, 05:47 pm

Hi I am an een who has been working for 11 years ... I totally disagree with the upcoming rn's comments ... I am nearly finished my Rn's and I thank god that I have done my een before I did it ... As a een I do more than the rn does ... I work at a major hospital and most rns do not do what I do ... I take my own blood, I cannula the my own patients etc... Oh and taking blood is also not taught in uni either ... 

In my experience most Rn's think that we do not have brains as we are only a een ... also we tend to get the crap jobs that the rn does not want to do ... 

I have thought long and hard about whether to even get my rn as I do not want to end up like them ... 

I think all Rn's should have to be ain's before they do anything else ... 

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Aug 13, 2014, 08:32 pm

I'd have to agree with Hannah's mum. I am an AiN, studying to be an EN. I not long ago finished my first placement, and we had many student RNs on the ward. They did not know the very basics (showering, changing pads, using bed pans etc) and seemed to need the RN give them constant direction. I might "only" be studying enrolled nursing, but my partner and I managed to keep ourselves busy the whole shift, working independently, while the student RNs had to be spoonfed the entire time. I paired myself with an EN who did everything the RNs did - she just had to get the S8s done for her. Oh and apparently ENs can't hang blood either, while RNs can. The main difference is the scope of practice and critical thinking component. Yes, RNs do three years as opposed to 18 months, however in my EN course we're doing the same amount of prac hours, and it's been shown that in face-to-face lectures, ENs and RNs complete the same amount of hours. 

RNs aren't taught cannulation either; it's an extra course for them to do, as well as ENs.  

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Sep 08, 2014, 12:52 am

"Oh and taking blood is also not taught in uni either ... "

Incorrect. I am currently an RN student and we have definitely learnt this.

So much EEN vs Rn bullcrap on here. So unpleasant. We ALL look after patients, we all have our own reasons for choosing which qualification we have and I think we should all be a little friendlier to one another. No one has to be better than the other.

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