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Derek

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Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:01 pm

Hi everyone,EN's, EENs',RN's and AINS,
My name is Derek and I work at a metropolitan hospital in Sydney as an 'assitant nurse'. I love my job but have at times wished I were doing more to help patients in my care on various wards. I am thinking of training to become an 'Enrolled Nurse', however there are a few things that I feel, may not be to my advantage.
These are:(1) being my age which is 53,..most students are way younger than myself.
(2): Wanting to do the theorectical component of my studies 'on-line' if possible, that is either the enrolled nurse course, or may be even the Diploma of Nursing.
(3): Obtaining accurate information regarding a person in my postion on "how to get started"in applying.
Can anyone please tell me, if there is an entrance 'age limit' to enrolled nursing and would my previous years experience working as an AIN in various hospitals count in my application to TAFE.
Education wise, I do not hold an HSC, but have completed two recognized diplomas in professional counselling, and have certificate (3)in Aged Care. I feel I should apply to do the En's course but, am not sure exactly how to go about it. Is there another mature aged student reading this post that may at least give me some direction.? If so I would be pleased to read any suggestions or advice.

Derek (AIN).

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Jan 29, 2011, 09:33 pm

Hi Derek
I am also a mature student (45 today actually). I done my Cert 3 in aged care in 2008 and was working as an AIN at my local hospital. In 2009 I was lucky enough to receive a scholarship for my Diploma of Enrolled Nursing.

There was 21 students in my class and the oldest student was 62. I finished the course in August 2010. At times I found the physiology and anatomy hard to get my head around, but working in the field is a definite advantage. I found it easier to understand a lot of the subjects because I had seen it first hand.

I am still working at the hospital as an EEN and have just been accepted into uni to do my RN's and go straight into my second year and received 80 credit points. I am really glad that I done it this way as I was really doubting whether I could cope with all the studying and now feel confident about continuing my education.

Good Luck Derek, you will be fine, and your never to old to start. If you need any help along the way just yell, I am more than happy to help out.

Julie

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Jan 29, 2011, 10:53 pm

Derek, the entry requirements for the Dip Nurs are a Cert III or an HSC. As you have a Cert III, you meet the entry requirements and are eligible to apply. I am a Year 12 student currently completing my final year of schooling in Australia. I will apply to study nursing/international studies at UTS, with my uni studies commencing in 2012. It really is beneficial to do the Bachelor of Nursing, because you learn so much more and have a much wider scope of practice when you graduate, but it is understandable that you are middle-aged, probably have a family to support and therefore cannot afford to do three years of study. The Diploma in Nursing is another viable option.

You are not to old to apply for or to study this course. So I say go for it, apply to your local TAFE, do your clinical placement (supernumerary) and see if it's for you. Have fun!

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Jan 30, 2011, 12:11 pm

Oh Julie..., 'Happy Birthday"for 29th January.

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Derek

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Jan 30, 2011, 01:01 pm

Thank you to both 'Julie" and 'Up Coming RN' for answering my post regarding applying to enrol in the Diploma of Nursing ( Enrolled/ Division2). Your comments concerning student age are most encouraging and its great to learn that I have input from two people from both ends of the continuum. Your encouragement is much appreciated.
Being an AIN working in a hospital, I am involved in quite a few different aspects of patient care, however because we are all usually very busy, there seems little time to ask questions regarding procedures outside the limits of my job description. So anything nursing related that I am interested in reading gets done when I come home. I'm sure that learning more about how patients respond to different nursing therapies and being able to practice nursing at a higher level of patient care, is what I want to do.
The trouble is that I find the information about enrolment, or the procedure for applying a tad confusing as there appear to be so many different pathways that a prospective nursing student may take. For example,The Diploma of Nursing ( Enrolled/Division 2), there seems to be facilities for studying the theoretical component of the course on-line ( which would suit me due to shift work ), all well and good but "where abouts," completing the clinical component of the course is the question I have. For example, I live in Sydney, but hav'nt been able to find where I could apply, which TAFE for on-line studies? So I have enquired about studying on-line through the Gold Coast TAFE in QLD, But I'm not sure if Id have to do the cinical component in QLD or would I be able to do it it here in Sydney, combined with completed on-line theory? I'm sure there is a way as people obviously do, some theory on-line then complete the practical component in a Health Care facility, but which one is applicable in my circumstance?
I know I need to investigate this some more, but any input that sheds some light on my question would be much appreciated.

Thankyou,

Derek( AIN )

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Jan 30, 2011, 01:15 pm

Derek, as you live in NSW and presumably would like to study in your home state, you have several locations at which you can study.

You can do a Cert IV in Nursing, but this is currently being offered at Cootamundra TAFE only. Otherwise you can do a Diploma in Nursing, at one of the following locations in NSW:

- Ultimo TAFE

- Meadowbank TAFE in conjunction with the Sydney Adventist Hospital, Wahroonga

- Cootamundra TAFE

- Shellharbour TAFE

I recommend either Ultimo or Meadowbank, as they are easy to get to if you live nearby, and because Meadowbank TAFE delivers their nursing course along with the Sydney Adventist Hospital (the SAN), so there may be opportunities to do paid EN work at the SAN while you study. Contact the TAFE colleges that I have listed to ask whether they offer online learning / course delivery.

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Derek

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Jan 30, 2011, 02:00 pm

Thank you James,
that is certainly a big help.
Also, Good luck with your current studies.

Derek (AIN).

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Jan 30, 2011, 03:32 pm

Thanks Derek, right now I just have to concentrate on my studies to achieve the best HSC marks and ATAR possible, while giving myself a break to focus on my current casual job. I would like to find work as an AIN in a hospital (preferably Westmead Hospital, the SAN or Norwest Private Hospital). How can I find work as an AIN, and is the Cert III in Aged Care absolutely essential or is it just recommended? Thanks so much for your anticipated reply. Ciao, a piu` tardi! (Bye, until next time!)

Derek

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Jan 30, 2011, 10:52 pm

Hi again James,
we've really got to stop meeting like this(lol). ..Seriously and in an attempt to anser your question, as far as I know Cert3 is compulsary for working as an AIN in Aged Care and hopitals. I used to work for an agency and they used to send me to West Mead Public and also RNS, as I could perform and chart patient's vital signs, which was way back in those days considered rare for AINS. These days it may be a common part of an AINs job description. You may try waiting until you are in your first year of nursing at University as some hospitals allow RN undergrads to work as AINs on student breaks.( with pay). Ok hope that helps you a bit.

Derek(AIN).

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Jan 31, 2011, 08:27 am

Hi again Derek! (lol)

Perhaps we could share our email addresses? My email is jrschofield93@yahoo.com.au

My dream occupation is not actually registered nurse, rather it is trauma surgeon, however I would like to gain some experience as a hospital AIN before I start university to see if I am suited better to nursing, or to see whether I should become a nurse before becoming a doctor. I also like the idea of becoming a perioperative nurse practitioner (I could very well be the first surgical NP in Australia!).

I actually applied for the Cert III in Aged Care, starting in July 2010, and I even got a place in the course at Ultimo. Unfortunately it was a full-time course, and although I really wanted to leave school, become an AIN and then do my EENs through TAFE before applying to medicine or nursing at university; my mother was hearing nothing of it. So now I'm stuck in school and unqualified to be a part-time AIN - do you think I could complete the cert III 'on the job' i.e. complete the certificate part-time (evenings) through TAFE while I work as an AIN? There is a vet in my family, and my dad has lots of nurse friends, so I have learnt heaps from them, plus I am trained in first aid (CPR and basic life support) and know how to treat common emergencies (e.g. anaphylactic shock). Even though am lacking cert 3, still would not be unsafe around patients, as know how hospitals work (have had surgery in the past week and visited A&E half a dozen times). So what do you think - could one enrol in aged care whilst working as an AIN or PCA (happy to do PCA for a few years)?

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