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Certificate IV in aged care (Care Supervisor)

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PrincessDemonik

  • Joined: Mar 2007
  • Location: Sydney
  • Posts: 16

Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:03 pm

Hi all.

We all know aged care is changing - RNs and ENs are expensive in terms of staffing, and aged care facilities are beginning to capitalise on the idea of Cert IV AINs fulfilling a traditionally clinical role. This is despite the fact that older people are not being admitted into aged care until they reach much higher dependancy levels than in the past.

What do people think about the 'care supervisor' concept? Perhaps someone here has done the course, and is now working in this role. Any ideas would be great.

Monika

Gold Key Holder Rotator Cuff

  • Joined: May 2007
  • Location: Brisbane
  • Posts: 85

May 17, 2007, 11:57 am

Hi PrincessDemonik,

I am assistant in nursing in aged care only for three years though,(in brisbane) and considering doing Cert IV in aged care. I have heard around the ridges that AIN may be trained to give medications to Residents that are capable of asking for them. This may not come into action for a few more years yet.Where i work in High Care only RN do meds and dressings.Anyways back to Cert IV-there is a module in the units of this course titled "Assist with Self Medication". In the course description the only thing that may have something to do with care supervising might that cert IV may be required to supervise a limited number of other workers.I have also heard that this course has a lot to do with understanding and doing documentation relating to RCS, and all the other paperwork that has to be done. Let you know if a decide to do it.

Cheers rotator cuff

Gold Key Holder Rotator Cuff

  • Joined: May 2007
  • Location: Brisbane
  • Posts: 85

Jun 05, 2007, 08:39 am

RC here,

given up on doing cert IV instead put my name on waiting list to do a Diploma in Nursing Care. I figure that the cost of some of these cert 4 course is a bit exey, i will do EEN instead ...... more responsibility, more study but it will be worth the cost and challange.

RC

Gold Key Holder KingAaron

  • Joined: May 2006
  • Location: Adelaide
  • Posts: 51

Sep 02, 2007, 09:57 pm

Hey Guys,

Down here in Adelaide, Iam a Senior PC who has held the role of Care Supervisor in previoues roles. Iam also able to administer medications to residents from a webster style system, multi dose system, and also able to give injections of S/C Insulin. I also know of a number of facilities where the Personal Care Workers or the Qld and NSW version so to speak AIN's, administer medications to residents of low level facilities ie, Hostels. As well as administering PRN medication if required.

I have worked over in NSW as a AIN, and roles are the same, just settings are generally different, ie: SA we dont have AIN only PCA, and dont work in Acute Settings, and what a PCA is in a hospitial is a PSA's. Over in NSW AIN's, work both aged and acute, but do the same roles, maybe appears different due to the environment)

THe Cert 4 course does focus a bit indepth on RCS and Documentation writing planning and implementing, due to a care supervisor's role is generally making sure the other staff are documenting correctly and if they are not then showing them how to improve. Writing RCS summaries from assessments, Nursing Care Plan writing, that sort of thing.

I guess when deciding what to do, if you want to stay in Aged Care for your career then doing cert 4 would be useful, however if you wanted to maybe do ur RN training @ uni, or more into acute settings then i would say do your EN Training.

Cheers

Aaron

Aaron

Senior Care Worker / Team Leader
http://www.nursingaustralia.com.au/

Gold Key Holder Rotator Cuff

  • Joined: May 2007
  • Location: Brisbane
  • Posts: 85

Sep 03, 2007, 10:35 am

Hi guys,

Bugger tafe waiting list. I start my EEN in three weeks through Australian Instutite for Care Development. Have had to give up one of my afternoon shifts cause that is class day anyways thats life.

RC

Molly

  • Joined: Apr 2007
  • Location:
  • Posts: 64

Sep 03, 2007, 05:53 pm

Hello Rotator Cuff ! Congratulation.Where is Australian Instutite for Care Development located in Brisbane? I live in Brisbane and never heard of it.

Best Wishes Molly

Gold Key Holder KingAaron

  • Joined: May 2006
  • Location: Adelaide
  • Posts: 51

Sep 04, 2007, 12:17 am

RC,

I think you made the right choice. But that is my opition. Best of luck with you course, and if you need help,. then please sing out

Aaron

Aaron

Senior Care Worker / Team Leader
http://www.nursingaustralia.com.au/

Gold Key Holder Rotator Cuff

  • Joined: May 2007
  • Location: Brisbane
  • Posts: 85

Sep 04, 2007, 10:24 am

Hi Molly and KingAaron,

Australian Institue for Care Development is the education arm of Aged Care Queensland, their premises are at Jindalee, where that amazon water place used to be. There web address is aicd.qld.edu.au/ Thanks for your support KA will be singing out loud and clear if I need help. i probably be on here everyday asking questions.

RC

bernie63

  • Joined: Jul 2008
  • Location:
  • Posts: 1

Jul 08, 2008, 11:49 pm

Hi all, i am currently doing Cert 3 in Aged care via corresspondence, i live down in sydney. I wanted to do my EN after i finish my Aged Care in cert 3, but i was also interested in finding out how to do your cert 4 and if you can do it via correspondence.

Thanks!

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