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becg81

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Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:02 pm

Hi, I am a new user of this site but seems very good. I am currently a EEN working full time and am considering studying my RNs via external study. I was told that Charles Darwin uni was great and have also heard some feedback about UNISA. If anyone has studied external for this course or is also considering enrolling, please reply as I would much appreciate some feedback. I am looking to go external as I still want to work full time.

Cheers

Bec

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Feb 13, 2011, 02:02 pm

Bec,

I've heard good things about CDU on this forum. I'm studying external with CQU and am very pleased with it so far.

If you have any questions just ask.

Dave

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Feb 18, 2011, 10:15 am

Hi Dave,
Thanks for your reply, I just looked at CQU, it looks not to bad. Can you give me some information about the uni and studying externally. How are the exams, the work load and the delivery as well as the support provided by the uni. I was interested when I saw they had a Brisbane based office and that you could still study externally.

I am thinking of starting either end of this year or early next year.
Cheers
Bec

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May 20, 2011, 12:39 am

I studied externally with UniSA via Open Universities Australia and it was absolutely dreadful, almost everyone dropped out. From memory only half a dozen in my year group ended up graduating! I heard that they were better if you study with them directly externally (not via OUA) but after my experiences and those of my classmates I could never recommend UniSA under any circumstances..

A short list of their sins would include the fact they didn't bother to organise our clinical placements, they gave us the wrong exam one semester ie the exam for a different unit and refused to remark it until we got together and threatened legal action (seriously!!), in our final year they simply decided to change the rules with no warning and told us we would have to do our final placements in rural south australia - for SIX WEEKS! (we're studying externally for a reason, we all have jobs or children etc and can't just move interstate to the outback for over a month!) or else not graduate, tutors would go missing for weeks at a time with no explanation and we'd have assignments or exams looming with no idea what the content would be, the list goes on and on, just appalling.

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May 30, 2011, 10:04 am

Hi-

I am also a uni sa extrernal student currently completing second year f/t and i'm also in the same boat my time at the uni has been beyond dreadful so much so i'm applying for on campus unis in Melbourne for mid year intake and will most likely be adding an extra full year onto my course because UNI SA has been so bad.

I personally would avoid them unless your in Adelaide as i was recently told i will most likely NOT get any of my 3rd year placements in melbourne and will have to go to Adelaide for 2 x 8 week placements because they prefer you to be in adelaide because it's easier to assess and also because hospitals interestate have different insurance requirements to Adelaide and as a result a lot won't take on Uni SA students which they neglect to put on their prospectus.

The last 2 workshops i've been in Adelaide for were also dreadful having spent money on flights and acocmodation for a number of days and then to spend the whole time with Tutors and clinical staff who had no idea what we had learnt, what the assessments were and no idea what was going on. On one day we had and assessment worth about 30% and up unitl we got into the assessment no staff memeber from tutors to course co-ordinators could tell us anything abou how the assessment was to be run i think i heard about 10 different plans of what the assessment was over 3 days.

In 18 months of studying with Uni SA i have very few positives on them

Cheers!- Jess

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May 30, 2011, 06:16 pm

Hi everyone,

Just thought I would say hi to everyone. I'm really hoping to start nursing studies next year externally at CQU (as a mature aged student at 34). I'm really hoping to get in, but the closest thing I have come to doing in the medical field is a medical admin course which included basic medical terminology and anatomy. Any tips or hints. I'm a little nervous about taking the STAT.

Love these forums :-)

Cheers, Cheryl

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Jun 02, 2011, 02:27 pm

Just a quick update on my quest to start studying a bachelor degree in Nursing. I've signed up for some WIST units which I start soon and will hopefully gain access to the B of Nursing with CQU in 2012 (Sem 1).

Let me just say how absolutely fantastic the staff are at CQU - their encouragement, support and help have been amazing. I am looking extremely forward to studying with them and pleased that I have picked them over UniSA and others.

I'm super excited.

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Jun 02, 2011, 06:41 pm

Hey MissChezZ!

Congrats on deciding to take up nursing, and WIST

I have just completed LIFT through CQU and it was fantastic! The staff are so helpful and the course over all was a great eye opener to what it is like to study externally and via university. I will be starting nursing in sem 1 2012 also!

All the best with WIST

AngelaM

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Jun 02, 2011, 09:02 pm

Are you in NSW? I would also suggest looking into CSU and UNE.

Schizo

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Jun 03, 2011, 12:24 am Last edited Jun 03, 2011, 12:24 am update #1

@MissChezz and Jallie01 - I know both of you are planning to do it externally but I would strongly recommend that you consider doing it full time but operate as an external student. I did mine full time at QUT but rarely turn up for lectures or tutes...only those which are essential because you're marked.. :(

The support you get in forming study groups within your batch makes studying a lot easier and it tends to motivate you more. Let's face it, lecturers are usually BORING! And we all have family and part time work to juggle. I also encourage you to consider QUT, Griffith, UQ amongst your selection criteria because these Unis have a strangle hold in placing their students in major hospitals for their clinical placements. You will know well in advance where you will be placed and this allows you to organize yourselves around the clinical placement dates. I have a colleague whose upgrading from EEN to RN with CQU. Whilst she loves the course because of its flexibility, she would not know where she's placed until 2 weeks out. This makes for very difficult planning as she would have to gain short notice leave to attend placements. bear in mind, placements become longer as you progress through your course and it means it can only become harder if you work part time or working shifts. Good placements means better opportunities to improve your learning curve.

Also DON'T buy books, borrow similar titled books and you'll find it verbatim to the pre-requisite text. I have saved hundreds of dollars doing this...I am a tight Ar*se...lol

Good luck and hope you'll enjoy your studies and placements

modified: Friday 03 June 2011 12:26:19 am - Schizo

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Jun 03, 2011, 07:21 am

Hi Schizo,

How many times did you have to attend QUT a week? I'm studying with CQU externally (part-time) and will be starting pracs very soon. It would be nice to know in advance where you are placed.

I ruled out QUT as I didn't think they offered the course externally. Having said that I am really enjoying the course with CQU and the lecturers have been extremely helpful and professional.

Thanks!

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Jun 03, 2011, 07:33 am

Hi Bec,

Sorry I didn't see you post. CQU offer a great course. When doing the course externally you will have to attend res school for a couple of days each term. I attend these in Noosa. They are not offered in Brisbane. You can sit your exams in a number of locations. I sit mine in Brisbane but there are loads of other exam centers. The lectures can be downloaded and watched normally 1 day after delivery. The course material is presented online with most sending out a study guide. The course is very well run and you certainly won't be disappointed if you go with CQU (I know I'm not!).They also offer a number of courses in term 3 so you can study part-time but take less than 6 years.

Studying externally can be a bit of a challenge with staying motivated while working etc. However, its not impossible. I work full time and I'm managing at the moment with good grades. I've also worked a second job at times driving a taxi so anything is possible. It's a amazing how much study time you can get while sitting on a rank. Sometimes I was disappointed to see a customer!!

Anyway, fire more questions if you want and I will try to answer.

Regards,

Dave

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Jun 03, 2011, 10:22 am

@Dave aka abbeyside, QUT is a strange animal. Some of its units can be done externally within an full time course in nursing. Don;t ask me how this works. Whilst I am a full timer, I rarely attend lectures (less than 25%) and tutes (less than 35-40%). Well one would say that i am like an external student, which for all intents and purposes, its so. I only attend lectures and or tutes about 1-1.5 times a week at MOST...lol. I am a lazy bastard.

What i find go about this arrangement is that I can meet my peers for information anytime when i am around Uni. to gain a heads up on what's happening and also for some group discussion on assignments, also it provides me with an opportunity to share information about what's expected in the tutes or assignments from other mates who are in different tutes. these tidbits does help a lot when you'e wondering what the hell do they really want out of the assignment. Sometimes what we think is an answer is NOT because someone in another tute has already brooched the points with a tutor whose more willing to narrow things down for his/her students.

Like you I download my notes and hardly listen to lectures, the notes are usually more than sufficient, What I find most important are pracs, it gives you a real heads up and allow you to marry what you have learn in textbooks with the real thing. So far I have done pracs in ICUs, CCU, Emergency (including helping in a code), general wards and etc. I look back on those days and I am happy that I made QUT my choice. I am sure CQU and other Unis are great, heard good things from those with them but I can only share from my experience. I think gone are the days where we have to physically attend Uni and scribble hard to follow the lecturers...lol

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Jun 05, 2011, 09:34 am

Thanks Jallie - I'm really looking forward to it and I may see you at prac's next year :-)

Schizo - I did consider doing it full time but with family & work commitments, I think personally I'd be better off starting part time & perhaps going full time further down the track. I do have a worry about placements - and I will consider QUT. Qut would have been my first choice - but they don't offer the course external. But now that you have let me know that you rarely attend lecture's I may reconsider.

Cheers,

Cheryl

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Jun 07, 2011, 02:03 pm

lol..Like many of you guys, I too have to look after kids (4 of them monsters), cook meals for the family (my kids will not eat my wife's cooking...sigh), work part time as a research assistant for QUT and run a small business from home. Cheryl...it is certainly do-able, I have even expressed my studies to include extra subjects in my second year so that I can have an easy final semester when I have to concentrate on my pracs.

The reason for my encouraging you to consider full time is that you have the support of your peers, you NEED not do 4 subjects a semester if you feel like it, so there's an opportunity to drop back. In QUT and like many other unis, you can start the semester with 4 subjects and if you find it too difficult, you can drop the subjects before the census date. Its only on the cut off date that you are required to pay your fees.Its usually about 4 weeks from start of semester to the cut off census date, so there's plenty of time to see if you can handle the load.

Secondly, plodding alongst a few subjects at a time can be a strain on your motivation. Many who had been doing part time eventually came back to full time in a bid to finish off.

Anyways, all the best in your decision.

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