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Jan 18, 2011, 03:48 pm

hi tracey....
well howz about that..yr already one week into yr diploma!!!!! yr so lucky to be doing yr studies in a hospital, i think that would be the ideal way. now that i know what u had to go thru to get the place, im gonna have to say congrats again....wow u did so well to get a spot!!! they must have had a sense of what a brilliant nursey yr gonna be.

oooooh an oral.... gulp..i HATE public speaking. maybe i wont have to do that bit, being an online thingie..... AND i cant believe u chose to go first... u brave soul. altho i do understand yr reasons, i still think yr brave....or mad.....
what did u do the talk on.....far out i still cant believe u did an oral after only 1 week.....

what r yr co-student EEN's like? hope u got a good bunch of study mates. will be interesting to see if any drop out. i have several friends at work who have just finished/are in the middle of their diploma and it seems the drop out rate is high. one friend had a class that started out as 33 and finished with 12!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOO im gonna be here poking u along if u even BEGIN to think about it.......and i expect a sharp poking too when i start doubting my ability to get this diploma!!!!!

mmmm micro-organisms sound fascinating.... hell it all is fascinating! i cant wait to start and am getting antsy about it. i rang BNIT (its at caboolture) and we will be recieving stuff in the mail....c'mon already!!! i guess there will be an orientation day....student card to get...... im just wanting it to all start already....but on the other hand im as nervous as all hell........... so glad i "have" u to forum with...lololol

~When you're a nurse you know that every day you will touch a life or a life will touch yours. ~

xoxox erika
look forward to chatting with u soon.... oh and by the way.........u still drooling over mr hottie nurse?????? what a perfect distraction........heeheehee

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Jan 22, 2011, 06:04 pm

Hi Erika

Just finished my first 2 week block and loved every second. The class appears to be a diverse bunch ranging in age from 21 all the way up to about 55. We bounce well off each other and there is already a feeling of comradeship in the class room. You are right, I am lucky to be given this opportunity. I think a hospital is the perfect environment to learn about nursing. I can't imagine trying to achieve my EN via correspondence, I am a visual kind of gal and need to be able to question to process and retain new things. I really hope you are given bucket loads of support.

So far it is a manageable work load, and I am finding learning about language particularly interesting. The teacher has an absolute aversion to text talk, and I have become so mindful of this I have actually stopped text talking even when texting! Ha! I think trying to structure sentences correctly and using the correct spelling is a good habit to get into considering it is worth a whopping 15% in our overall assignment marking!

I will be settling in to one day of study per week (Tuesday) from now until my work placement which starts in May. No doubt it will be here before I know it. Got my uniform, sadly not at all cute.... I will have to compensate with some cute shoes.

The hottie is still hot. He is Swedish, but sadly is fluent in English - I mean to say, is there anything hotter than a hottie who doesn't speak English?!

Good luck with your starting date and I look forward to sharing progress notes.

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Jan 29, 2011, 02:51 pm

hey tracey.........mmmm any swedish hottie has to be good, but shame about the english....his name isnt sven is it............?? lol.
well now I finally have some news to report. i met with my nursing teacher friday morning and he is a realy nice guy, very relaxed, friendly and supportive. i worried about that. so anyway, we were given our semester 1 timetable....scary and real now.... then...and here is the best news...he told us that because we r doing this thru a govt funded program, we get our uniform shirt and nurses kit for free....and wait for this............ OMG we get all our textbooks for free as well!!!!! we (the 3 slected from my work) just about fell over. ive been saving for ages to cover the cost of the books, now i will keep saving for a post graduation holiday instead..... AND as we also have workshops and residentials i was not looking forward to going to the northside and travelling thru the city, but he told us that we only have to go to coomera........a 20 min straight run down the motorway....it just gets better and better. UNTIL... i get home fri morning and our 1st semester study guides have been delivered.....well tracey i nearly crapped myself...........holy hell...8 workbooks for 6 months.........and this doesnt include assignments.......... NOW i feel sick, overwhelmed, unprepared, nervous and all the other things that cause panic. AAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH. ahh better now that THATS off my chest.....im glad our CNC has offered to run tutorials for us, and has an open door policy if we get stuck, but moreso than that, im glad u r 2 weeks ahead of me and can really understand how i feel. i do wish i was in a classroom setting but this will be good too.......just type print and post......... grrrr
flicking thru the books, some of the stuff is similiar to my cert 3..(oh why didnt i keep my assignments when i moved....) u know..ohs, infection control, and the physiological signs of aging............ the rest? well it has me sitting in a corner rocking quietly while drooling....
but i AM looking forward to this, just have to learn to push thru the fear of failure and learn to breathe..........
so, how is it all going for YOU?? u must be at expert level now huh? lol! hard to believe in 2 years................ wow we will be nurses!!! fo'real!!!! hahaha

so i must go do some mundane things...like shopping.....then some more sleep b4 tonights shift....sigh........

i look forward to yr next documentation.........
GO US!!!!!!!!!
xoxo erika

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Apr 17, 2011, 05:28 pm

Hello Erika!

Sorry there has been quite the delay, but I have been so busy!

Balancing 2 jobs, study and my pole dancing at the local strip club on the weekends simply chews up my free time.

It pleases me to tell you that I am officially 1/8 of the way through my study. I have been studying in the education wing every Tuesday and I have just started my first nursing placement on Wednesdays. I am currently on afternoon shift at the hospital and I have basically learned how to nail doing obs and body fluid collections and other more basic practices in the EN scope. I am hoping to do a simple aseptic wound dressing this Wednesday (fingers crossed some poor blighter falls down or hurts themselves and needs wound care). I have had a stack of stuff crossed off in my Clinical Competency Placement Book, and I am almost ready to face a day shift, more work less pay I am told.

I have to say I am in absolute awe of the nursing team and can't believe that in 18 short months I will be officially a part of that team. They work together like a well oiled machine. I used to think doctors were the heart of a hospital, I now see it is the nurse. I have been so lucky in RN teaming so far. Each RN I have been coupled with so far has been happy to impart tricks of the trade and useful tips. I really love being able to assist both the RN and the EN's with my limited knowledge where ever I can.

I really hope you are loving your study as much as I am loving mine.

Talk soon

Tracey

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Apr 21, 2011, 05:35 am

You are absolutely right that the HEART of the ward is the nursing team. It is because we spend more time with the patient and as such have much more intimate knowledge of the patient's mental state of health and mobility issues. I encourage you NOT to buy a stethoscope just yet but if you have already, then I encourage you to try to use it as much as possible.

When auscultating, remember to correlate the position of your stets to the body's internal organ's position. Always move your stets around the body. Example, you might hear clear air intake in the upper chest but fail to hear crepes in the basal area because you did not re-position your stets to the lower part of the throacic area. Also NOTE the loudness of the sounds you hear. I recently taught a student how to determine a mitral valve regurgitation. She hear the murmur but did not re-position. I made her re-position her stets and remember to correlate it to where her stets was sitting over. As she moved it away, to the lateral position, the murmur was less clearer and duller. And it was clearest at the mid clavicular 4th intercostal position...where the mitral valve is roughly positioned. I am sorry for being so long winded but I think it helps to understand we study human anatomy for a reason and that it is applicable when we put other skills together with them. You are the eyes and ears of the doctors!!

Great to hear that you all are doing do well and love your studies. Wishing you all the best

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Apr 21, 2011, 05:53 am

Quirks aka Erika, I admire you for your strengthens in juggling work, family and studies...go girl!!! LOL..always entertaining to read some of your post. Sounds like you are doing very well and will be a great nurse. I can see in you and Tracey that you both have good hearts and alert minds...things that one needs to be a good and compassionate nurse, Well done both of you.

Just a short scenario for you girls to thin about. A patient of mine was recently told that she has inoperable valvular disease and its terminal. She's slowly dying of heart failure and she's starting to see the first signs which she have never noted to be that bad..and its shortness of breath. I have been looking after her for the past 2 weeks now and have seen how she deteroriated from cheerful to an empty shell. The doctors don;t see what their bad news can do to people, its left to us nurses to be their psychological support and friend in these times. She has not been able to sleep at night because she cannot come to terms of her dying. She does not want to die and worse, her children did not come visit. I recall 2 nights ago, when I have to sit with her for 30 minutes holding her hand until she fell asleep from exhaustion at 3 am. The fear of death magnifies itself at night in most cases because its the time of the day when everything is quiet and there's lesee "signs" of life...noises, people talking and movement. So for these people, they sleep during the day when their relatives visit because its soothing then. I know how all this would end, it would be a torturous road, where the patient will have air hunger, edema will wreck their bodies and they will not be able to exert themselves.So instead of walking the patient to the toilet of giving them the pan, it will soon be an IDC insertion and the patient basically sits upright leaning either to the left or right side to sleep because pulmonary edema and altered state of consciousness and very slowly meet their end. As nurses, we have to steele ourselves and be there for them, hence I agree with Tracey, nurses are the literal heart of the ward.

Anyways, don;t let this sad real life scenario dampen your spirits...soldier on and hope to see you in the wards soon.

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Apr 22, 2011, 02:00 pm

Hello!

Let's face it, there is a real life sad scenario in every nursing pod, and if witnessing the physical and emotional horror of dying dampens your spirits - get out, because you are in the wrong job. As Benjamin Franklin said, the only thing in life that is certain is death and taxes. It is a normal human emotion to fear death, particularly when it happens in early life or in mid life, rather than after living a full and long life. I think it was wonderful that you were able to sit with your patient for 30 minutes to help reassure her and comfort her, but from what I have seen so far on the wards, that extra patient time can sometimes be an impossibility, particularly when you have 3 admissions coming in all at the same time and a ward that is chocker block full.

No disease is pretty to witness in its final stages and I think if you are the kind of person who can't separate yourself from the suffering of your patient, you will definitely burn out emotionally rapidly. I have only done four clinical placement days so far and have assisted in palliative patient comfort care twice, which I guess is an example of how often we as nurses will directly be touched by death and provide personal care at the end of someone's life. I try to treat my palliate patients with respect, kindness and use a soothing tone and a gentle touch. You are right it is horrible to witness the panic and fear in their eyes and listen to the horrible sounds their body will make as it slowly shuts down, but to me you have to separate yourself because lets face it, a hospital the absolute home of heartbreak.

On a lighter note, I am loving my work placement and I love being a part of that nursing team (even though I am quite a useless part due to my limited knowledge). I am fast becoming the queen of obs! I did my first Bladder Scan and ECG last Wednesday night and I have also got the hang of that urinalysis machine. Looking forward to doing some basic aseptic wound care next week if the opportunity arises. It is also a bit of a wake up call as to what happens if you don't respect your physical health. The amount of young (40 - 50 year old) obese diabetes sufferers in hospital with leg ulcers or young alcoholics with liver failure is quite horrifying, particularly because they are diseases which can be so easily avoided. Makes me happy to take a power walk each day and eat right that is for sure!

Oh well it is back to an assignment for me, I hope you enjoy your Easter.

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Apr 23, 2011, 07:01 am

If you're doing your night shifts, you'll probably note that there are pockets of time available that aren't when doing the day and afternoon shifts. All the more so, because the 30 minutes came out from my break allowance. I know its always difficult to see what happens in a hospital, that's why I shard that experience, simply because its not all about doing procedures and etc. To suggest that someone should get out if they cannot accept this or because it dampens the spirits isn't something I expected you to put down...well if its any consolation whilst its a sad scenario, I gave up a well paid job to be a nurse because I feel that I could do more for others. Believe me its never easy no matter how many times a patient who is NOT ready passes but I guess the silver lining is that it reminds me that I have become so immune that I loose my compassion for others.

Tracey, I have worked in ICU and switched of life support for those beyond what we can do and to see family members gather around to say goodbye is never easy. Now just because I feel for them, do you think I should get out?

I posted here because i want to encourage you all. Doing an ECG is great but if you have time, learn to read one...it will not only extend your knowledge but make you a unique member of your team. For example if you identify a heart block, you can tell members of your team and review medications to stop say the administration of beta blockers or digoxin as an intervention until doctors can review the patient. What I am encouraging you to do is to look beyond the processes and tie them up with the knowledge that you're gaining to become a very effective team member. For example, you mentioned that you saw alcoholics with liver disease, but have you also noted that the patient is on high doses of Folic acid and/or Vit B complex. If you had just given these meds out without wondering why, you might have missed the opportunity to co-relate it to your anatomy class. Alcoholics usually have some impaired neurological functions, damages could be in the frontal lobe causing emotional swings and aggression, Vit B complexes and Folic acid it given to help overcome deficiency because of the habit and help stablise and improve neurological function

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Apr 23, 2011, 02:52 pm Last edited Apr 23, 2011, 02:52 pm update #1

Thanks for your feedback, Schizo.

You were the one who used the term "dampen your spirits" in your initial post and I merely ran with it. To be perfectly honest I found your whole broken hearted tale of nursing woe quite condescending. We are mature aged students, most of us have actually lived that "scenario" as you called it in our very real lives. The grief of the patient and their family is not your grief and if you can't separate yourself from the grief of your patients then you will emotionally burn out sooner rather than later, I stand by that. I believe your role as a nurse is to provide empathy, strength, kindness, caring and compassion and of course that is going to mean you will lose tears at times, but I think it is unhealthy to become emotionally involved in your patients lives. I am not entirely sure what you meant when you shared that you have become "so immune that you lose your compassion for others" sort of an oxymoron to your earlier "30 minute lunch break shared with your patient who then collapsed with exhaustion" story, but anyhoo.

I also think advice is a great thing - with advice, you can take it or leave it. Personally though I think it is always best to impart advice when you have actually been asked for it. I must say, your advice encouraging me NOT to buy a stethoscope, then in your next breath you tell me if I did have one to use it as much as possible, was just a little confusing...

I realise you are simply trying to help by sharing your vast nursing knowledge but as I stated, I only started my nursing study in January. I am on day 4 in my afternoon clinical placement and I haven't even started A and P or meds yet. For the moment I just want to focus on mastering the more basic nursing requirements of the Enrolled Nurse.

modified: Saturday 23 April 2011 3:09:40 pm - Tracey_Lee

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Apr 24, 2011, 01:25 am Last edited Apr 24, 2011, 01:25 am update #3

Tracey When I shared with you about the dying patient, I was reaffirming your statement that nurses are the heart of the ward...the human face and importance of our role. I did not write to be-little anyone. I wrote that it should not dampen ones spirit because you and erika are so cheerful and excited with your studies and I hoped that it did not detracted both of you in your pursuit. I had not meant that neither of you have no resolve to stomach this or not.

When i wrote for you not to buy the stethoscope, I did not go on to explain that you might find that hospitals will supply them and if you're happy to use them, you will find that you would have saved yourself some out money. Also there are different stets out there which you might prefer to acquire later on as you advance into your career...example - Cardiac Stets or or Peads stets. I was of the impression that the school requires you to purchase your own stets. which you may very well find it unnecessary later on. But if you have already purchased one, then I encouraged you to use it often and learn how to use it. What is wrong with encouraging you to do so? I find a lot of nurses don't know how to use stets. If you have a cardiac stets, do you know you can change picking of different pitches from high to low simply by pressing the diaphragm slightly harder on the pt's skin, hence it only has one side. Whereas to do the same, the stets that has a bell and a diaphragm needs to be swap between sides if you want to hear different pitches. 95% of nurses only use the diaphargm but have never progress to use the bell. Also i encouraged you to use the stets often because with proper technique and experience you will be able to use the use it effectively in your work. What I shared with you about the student is because we are generally not trained properly to use stets, a mitral valve regurgitation is not common. I got the student to move the stets position because through this, she learned that the murmured was loudest when positioned over the mitral valve and not the tricuspid and murmur faded or become duller as she moved away. Moving the stets around and listening to sounds becoming louder or fading away, provides one with "referencing". Pnuemonia for example will present with crackles, especially on expiration - if you auscultate and hear more crackles in both upper section of the lungs than say yesterday, you know that the patient's ability to undertake gas exchange is further compromised...so as a nurse, you may want to sit the patient up in a semi or full fowler position to improve his/her ability to breathe. With older people, sometimes it almost impossible to feel for pulse and I have suggested to students to use auscultation as a technique of determining heart rate. I wished we had been taught how to use stets properly.

I made a typo error when i wrote that - it should have read as "it reminds me that I have NOT become so immune that I loose my compassion for others". I believe that compassion is what drives us in our work. I am not suggesting we become emotionally involve but its our intimate knowledge of the patient and our human desire to alleviate their suffering that makes us what we are and why nursing is an altruistic profession given the pay conditions...lol.

Tracey, good on you for having learned how to do bladder scans, ECGs and the platitude of procedures. I believe that nurses are NOT merely defined by our ability to do procedures alone but by our ability to intrepret and contribute to being the doctors eyes and ears, alerting them of changes or developments that they may not have picked up. I still standby my comment...use the opportunity that you now have to look beyond the procedures and co-relate them to what you are studying and it will make your experience even more exciting. Ask why are we doing this and self directed learning is the key to expansion of your skills. You say I am condescending in that I don't recognise that you are matured aged students with life experiences....in what way am I being condescending? I started my studies as a mature age student too (>40 years of age) and though being a qualified RN now, I am still learning - many times from younger RNs, ENs and AINs. I did not share the experiences to assume that you nor Erika are green behind the ears, I shared it because I was affirming that you were absolutely right in saying that nurses are the heart of the ward. We are the human face of medical care and we are there for the patient, NOT the doctors when patients go through physical, mental and emotional trauma.

If you think I have given you unsolicited advice and not encouragement then I am sorry. Given your apparent hostility to my innocent suggestions and encouragements, I shall leave this thread and not pursue anymore post..leaving you to enjoy your exchanges with Quirks. All the best to you and Erika. Adios

modified: Sunday 24 April 2011 5:32:30 am - Schizo

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Jul 16, 2011, 07:43 am

hi tracey....after all this time...just wondering how yr studies are going and if yr still pole dancing??? lol....would be nice to catch up now our 1st semester is done!!

regards, erika

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Aug 25, 2011, 05:46 pm

Hi Erika

How time flys!

I have just started my second placement at the local hospital! I am on the surgical ward this time around. My first placement was in the general ward, so as you can imagine there is quite a difference.

I am over half way through my study for this year and I have successfully completed every module so far. We are doing A and P and Mental Health this Semester, which I have found super interesting. Although I have absolutely no interest in working in Mental Health, I guess it is important as a nurse that I have a grasp on the comorbidities which affect patients in the general nursing areas. I have endured exams, presentations, assignments, debates and had my way with Herman the mock patient (he even has a penis!) as well as had my nursing practices scrutinised and I am pleased to report I have come up trumps every time!

I love my class, I simply could not have hand picked a better group to study with. Everything is going super well and I am balancing working 2 jobs and my pole dancing perfectly, although truth be known I would LOVE to cut back on work (the price we pay not to be a broke student). I am rewarding myself with a 5 day getaway to Fiji in November just to remind myself that working is worth it.

I would love to hear how you are going!

Take Care

Nurse Tracey :o)

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Sep 07, 2011, 05:15 pm

hi Nurse Tracey!!
time sure flies hey! im now part way thru my 2nd semester and am loving it so much. all my doubts and fears r long behind me now as i forge ahead successfully towards my dream. actually im really surprised how much my brain is retaining. its all so interesting. we have our first placement this semester (40 hours aged care) but im looking forward to my acute placement next semester. exams werent as scarey as i thought they would be. we have a week of exams at the end of each semester which is a good way to do it i think. i too have a great group of classmates and have made some really close friends. i enjoyed law & ethics and A&P but im so over community care packages.
was so fantastic to hear from u as i do think about u and wonder how yr going and what u have been up too.
with nursing care and wisdom!! nurse erika!

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Oct 15, 2011, 02:33 pm

A & P exam Tuesday!

70% pass mark.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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