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carol

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Apr 30, 2011, 05:50 pm

Does anyone know what the minimum hrs are they have to give you on PPT? I dont start for 2 weeks and i forgot to ask.

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May 02, 2011, 04:29 pm

Hi Carol. give your new employ a ring and clarify your hours as you will have to sign a letter of agreement. When I had my first interview in age care and taken on as PPT I was informed a minimum of 15 hours a week. I am at the moment working at two nursing homes on a casual basis for this reason. When I got my second job I said to them I am available Mon Tue Wed. and they have given me those days not always in the same area I may be in dementia or hostel but at least I have consistency. It looks like you may have to do the same don't worry as you gain the experience it will not be so daunting and I found it easier to find employment when you are already working and you say to them in your interview that you not closing the door on your present employ you are looking for some consistency and extra shifts. Some age care facility's rely on agency to fill staff.shortfalls.. Some collect a casual pool. Just be mindfull next time on what they are offering you in interview they should have made it clear to you hours you will work and what is suitable to you.

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May 15, 2011, 08:13 am

I hope you get in fast and can start working asap.

As for the feeling of queezyness, I am an RN1 in Aged Care, I've been a nurse for 10 years, but still get very nauseated at the smell of adult poo and can't be around it when the carers are changing their residents, even the skips gross me out.

The carers don't get what my problem is, but I guess everyones sensory system is different, and some things gross people out that doesnt gross others out.

Don't let it put you off though. It's a very rewarding career! Good luck!

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May 15, 2011, 10:25 am

Im kind of getting over that luckily, though its not my favourite part of the job.

I started but im not real happy with how few permanent shifts they gave me. A whole 3 shifts per fortnight. The nurse manager a week before i started said that at orientation we'd see what shifts were available (she'd already locked in those 3 shifts) but when i went to her after orienatation she wouldnt even give me any more shifts. just said you can put your name down for fill in shifts. Well i want more security than that. Im a single mum, i need to know what im doing every week. I expected to get 3 shifts a week at least. The other girls at orientation had a few shifts a week.

My start to the aged care industry hasnt been great, i feel like im just getting stuffed around.

Im wondering whether to ring HR and find out if their's a minimum amount im meant to be getting. I dont want to seem like im complaining but they say one thing one week, then dont follow through the next.

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Jun 03, 2011, 11:13 pm

hello carol. im currently doing a cert 111 in aged care and a cert 11 home and community care dual certificate, it gives you more qualifications and options for work...are you able to do the home and community care one ?
im in victoria and it gives me the choice of working either in an aged care facility or in home care, or even in hostels etc ...both privately or council run organisations.
just an idea that may help you with your work options.

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Jun 19, 2011, 09:04 am

Hi everyone. Guess I'm a little different from most people in this forum. I work practically full time in another field and am fitting in my Cert III around my current job. I get one day off in the week and the occasional weekend. Being an online student, I am nearing completion of my compulsory theoretical CORE units. I have heard recently that work placements prefer their students to be around the whole day and not just a couple of hours in the evening, which makes sense. Anyone been in a similar situation before? I am aware that it is an important job and shouldn't be rushed and it isn't my intention to do so. However, I have been lurking around this forum for months and have learnt so much and so many unexpected things...so maybe someone could enlighten me about geting through my 160 hours without losing my sanity? I am lucky in that my work placement is provided as a part of my course. I will Appreciate any thoughts on this..

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Jun 19, 2011, 04:25 pm

Hello Said..That question has come up in a previous post, when someone was hoping to do their hours in community service.. On my placement we did half our hours on the pm shift which is a different world to the am shift. We did get a taste of both world,. but to be honest do your placemen do the day shift. Do have some annual leave coming up, that is all I can suggest to you or take unpaid leave.

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Jun 19, 2011, 04:47 pm Last edited Jun 19, 2011, 04:47 pm update #1

Hi

Just thought id add that all is going well in my new job. Ive picked up extra shifts and managed to get the shifts i want. I love the arvo shifts (i have 5 arvo' a fortnight and 3 days) Arvo's are best, all the staff seem more chilled out and get along with each other well. And the work is easier.

Silawet, i think the cert 3 would be enough to get into home care here in SA. Im not interested in going down that path though. Ive done it before (shopping upport/cleaning) and it was never enough hrs plus fuel costs to consider.

modified: Sunday 19 June 2011 4:50:18 pm - carol

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Jun 22, 2011, 05:28 pm

Good that all is going well for you Carol and your shifts sound ideal.. I prefer the arvo shifts as well still busy, and challaging especially if you are working with dementia residents.. But to do workplacement as a student you do learn more in the am shift..

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Jun 25, 2011, 04:12 pm

Thanks for the input Gigjiz. Had a talk with the placement coordinator and looks like that is pretty much the way to go other than giving up all my day offs.

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Jun 25, 2011, 05:35 pm Last edited Jun 25, 2011, 05:35 pm update #1

Most of the staff have been really good so far but there are a few that are not good to work with at all. One yelled down the corridor the other night to me and a trainee that 'we need to hurry up as there's heaps to do' thing is it was only 8.30 and your not meant to start night pad changes till then anyway. I just find her nitpicking at the littlest things. Ive heard other staff complain about her. I just found her yelling like that really rude and unnecessary.Its not like it was 9pm and we hant even started pad changes. If she does it again,should i say something? I was reading the staff minutes in the staff room the other day and it was mentioned that there's been reports by new staff saying they're being bullied. The other night me and a trainee had to do all the pad changes and the tea run while the 2 other ladies fart assed around on the computers. tht just really annoys me as other staff have been great and everyone/s meant to share the workload. The trainee i worked with told me the other night her and agency were made to do it all as well while the other 2 did god knows what.

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Jun 25, 2011, 06:01 pm

Also another thing bothering me is staff not following care plans. There's one gentleman that is meant to be a stand lifter at all times. Some staff arent using it,they're letting him stand. If they want to risk their job by doing the wrong thing,fine but im not going to go along with it because they cant be bothered. We did learn in class we have a duty of care to report people doing the wrong thing. I havent said anything but yeah its really starting to bug me.

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Jun 26, 2011, 05:23 am

Carol...I am not defending the fat arses but maybe this could be another perspective to things -

1) Sometimes, we start our rounds early...including medications because we anticipate that it make take a little bit longer to get to the bottom of the barrel. This is common when I note some pts deteriorating or has had an acute history that is not fully resolved and would impact the normal routine if we need to provide additional attention. In cases like this, I would have my team give out some medications earlier. By that I mean medications that are once daily or are sufficiently spaced between the last dose if BD or tds. Sometimes, even with an early start we can fall behind.

2) For every shift, some of us have to log into the computer and assign cost for funding purposes or for management to chart the development of the workload. In cases like this, again I would assign or be assigned to "work" the computers whilst others do progress notes or man the floor.

There will always be a bully on the floor and I am sorry to hear that your place seems to have more than its fair share. I think a lot of people are a product of their environment. I remember working in age care and the pace is forever on the go. Management says use the hoist and etc but staff continue to use unauthorised lift methods. I think the problem stems from two sources. Firstly, the RN in charge is not forceful to push for equipment to be used whilst at the same time advocate for more staffing if required to execute the workload within a specified time frame, all safety concerns taken into account. We knew back then if we use the hoist, we would not be able to complete our work on time and management knows it but turns a blind eye. As far as they are concern, its the money they make that counts.

Secondly staff, especially those who have been there too long to be remembered, tend not to change their habits. So the pressure mounts for recruits and trainees and newbies to follow or get stuck with needles like a pin cushion,

Work at your own pace and be safe. Do the right thing and if the oldies complain, stick them with a report to management in writing plus keep a copy. Management would be compelled to initiate some changes because already there is a black and white c/o of non compliance. Because they get audited annually, they must show prove that they have taken action. You might need alliances within the place, so that you have a chorus of voices on this. Good luck Carol

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Jun 26, 2011, 01:06 pm

Thanks for the feedback Schizo. Us PCA dont do the things you mention though, we are all meant to be on the floor at the same time tending to residents personal care. The meds etc are left to the EN.

A few are slacking off but i guess you get that in most work places. I can see why some are taking short cuts as getting a lifter just so someone can go on the toilet seems a hassle especially when the resident does seem ok on his feet. But yeah i worry that we'd be in trouble if something happened. At orientation they told us follow the care plan because if you dont and something happens you'll be out the door so quick you wont know what hit you!

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Jun 27, 2011, 07:12 am

Heya Carol, Remember to be safe. PCA and AIN work can be pretty physical and the last thing you want to have is a back injury...simply because from then on...its only downhill. I know a lot of AINs and PCAs who injure their backs OVER time. They usually get away with 10 to 20 lifts but the muscles get strained bit by bit and then it gives..by then its too late. Hate to see you bullied into doing things you feel uncomfortable. I think you are spot on when you made up your mind to follow the plan.

When I gave the example of giving medications, I meant for it to apply laterally too..lol. I do night shifts and we have pad change rounds which i help an EEN do. Again if we foresee a heavy round, we push forward some of these pad changes by an hour or so. It might sound silly because the next pad round would probably be over saturated but we always hand over to the morning shift that we have done things a bit early so that they know to move their pad rounds up by 1/2 hour to even things up a bit...lol.

I am impressed that you are chasing your studies and enjoying your work...good on you. I always have this myopic idea that I am the only stale cheese on the block (mature aged student) chasing a nursing qualification and all the more so, being MALE...lol. People like you restores my faith in humanity for willing to uproot their stable lives to do something so altruistic.

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